Over on the official forums there’s a thread which details the response letter from the UCCSL to Linden Lab:
NEW MAIL FROM THE UCCSL TO LINDEN LAB OFFICE AND PETER GRAY
I’ll post the contents of the letter below the cut. The letter is addressed to Linden Lab Office and Peter Gray. Poor Peter Gray, he’s public relations but he shouldn’t be being named like this, he’s more like the negotiator to broker peace talks. I still see him carrying a briefcase, wearing shades, a suit and looking like a character straight out of Resevoir dogs … actually he could be Mr Gray, although Mr Grey works better for me!
The letter makes suggestions regarding the limits or lack of them, in the new TOS, suggests that licences should not be perpetual, asks for limits on sublicences for third parties and suggests that purposes of use need to be limited. The UCCSL are not jumping up and down regarding all aspects of the new TOS and they seem to be focussed on section 2.3.
I still think the root problem is Linden Lab wanting a Linden Lab TOS for all their products, the problematic sections largely arise from the old Desura TOS and as Second Life and Desura are now under the same umbrella TOS, Linden Lab are trying to fit the Second Life square peg into the Desura round hole, which obviously isn’t a sensible fit.
However Linden Lab have suggested that they are moving towards opening more windows of opportunity for content creators across their range of products and this is really what Linden Lab should be discussing, rather than getting sidetracked with trying to right the new TOS, they should be explaining why they need these terms to open those windows.
Having said that, I see little objectionable in the response from the UCCSL, I agree that the licence should be limited and purpose of use should be limited, in the old TOS the Second Life terms were for the promotion and use of the service in the main.
Some of their suggestions are a little bit more difficult to agree with, for example the attribution request where they want content creators to be attributed and informed of any transfer of content. This would be a logistical issue for Linden Lab and really requires further discussion on what exactly Linden Lab’s intentions are in terms of selling, reselling and transferring content. Without that information it’s hard to define what sort of limitations are required in this area.
I’ll now reproduce the letter:
TO: Peter Gray
FROM: Kylie Sabra & The UCCSL Council
DATE: November 11, 2013
After a meeting of the Council of the UCCSL Noon, Sunday, November 3, 2013, and subsequent vote by membership; below are the issues we find of concern in the current Second Life Terms of Service.
We hope to work together to resolve these issues, and in the creation of a new terms of service agreement that grants Linden Lab the license it requires while honoring and protecting the rights of content creators.
FROM SECTION 2.3 OF SL TOS
Except as otherwise described in any Additional Terms (such as a contest’s official rules) which will govern the submission of your User Content, you hereby grant to Linden Lab, and you agree to grant to Linden Lab, the non-exclusive, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual, and cost-free right and license to use, copy, record, distribute, reproduce, disclose, sell, re-sell, sub license (through multiple levels), modify, display, publicly perform, transmit, publish, broadcast, translate, make derivative works of, and otherwise exploit in any manner whatsoever, all or any portion of your User Content (and derivative works thereof), for any purpose whatsoever in all formats, on or through any media, software, formula, or medium now known or hereafter developed, and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed, and to advertise, market, and promote the same. You agree that the license includes the right to copy, analyze and use any of your Content …
The problematic terms in the above language are:
1. Unlimited is far too broad
We would prefer to see limitations on the license. We are unsure of exactly what is the intention behind the assertion of this right but the purpose that we glean from the context it is to transfer user content to third parties. Accordingly, we would appreciate reports of transfers of content so long as we are present (active account holders) in the Second Life virtual world.
We would also appreciate some limitations on transfer of content. For example, those creators who have withdrawn from SL due to the change in ToS as well as those who have not logged in to accept the new Terms should be excluded.
Another example of an acceptable limitation would not be a restriction at all but a reporting and attribution requirement. Specifically that all creator content sold or transferred by Linden Lab will be 1) attributed to its original creator and 2) a report of the transfer provided to its creator.
2. Perpetual
The perpetuity of the license is somewhat acceptable for member creators as it applies to copies of works already sold and in other inventories until the account associated with that creator is terminated. The perpetuity clause is not acceptable however as it relates to creators’ personal inventories and their original works. We would like a limitation that would reflect that distinction.
3. Sublicense –
We would prefer if the license granted to third parties is restricted to the original terms under which the content was originally uploaded i.e. that the third party does not inherit the “unlimited” rights acquired by Linden Lab under the new provision 2.3.
4. Purpose of use needs to be limited
The language “for any purpose whatsoever in all formats” is far too broad and unacceptable. We would prefer that language be limited and would appreciate your input in this regard as we are not convinced that the language above adequately recognizes the rights of different categories of content creators, for example visual artists.
Finally, I would like to arrange a meeting to discuss the options we present in this letter and to present a few other ideas we believe would result in a more co-operative relationship between Linden Lab and its creator community.
Also, please provide an update on Linden Lab’s efforts and intention, if any, to modify the current ToS.
I look forward to receiving your feedback.
Kylie Sabra, Council Facilitator
United Content Creators of SL
UCCSL Council
Council Facilitators
Kylie Sabra
Trinity Yazimoto
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