Controversy continues to surround Stroker Serpentine’s full perm release of his Sexgen V5. There are certainly grey areas when it comes to intellecutal property rights, with three other creators involved, Corsi Mousehold, Briggi Bard and Craig Altman.
Craig Altman has commented over at SLUniverse that he has not granted permission for his animations to be released full perms:
“The animations in this item of mine are being used against license, I have no agreement with Stroker for them to be given out in copy and transfer perms.”
Corsi Mousehold talked to The Alphaville Herald the other day and suggested his animations shouldn’t be part of the package:
“I could DMCA but in SL things can spread like wildfire. I would have to DMCA every single person I find that is giving it away. That’s a nightmare.”
Which leaves Briggi Bard, I don’t even know if Briggi is still in Second Life. The other animations are made by Stroker. My view here is that it’s best not to use anything that doesn’t have Stroker’s name as a creator, that is if the item doesn’t get deleted from your inventory anyway, a thread on the official forums on the subject has been nuked.
Then there’s the issue of someone over the weekend handing out the item but with the addition of some copybotted items, I received an offline that someone had offered me the full perm sexgen V5 over the weekend, others have said it contains copybotted items, maybe an attempt to get the original taken out of inventories, but it has all got very murky:
“BuffaloBleu has offered you ‘SexGen Ultra Base v5 (FULL PERM)’ in Second Life. Log in to accept or decline the offer.”
When it comes to subjects like this, it’s always best to err on the side of caution, some people mean well when they hand out gifts, they are at times not even aware items are copybotted, however people end up learning the hard way if items are copybotted in freebie packages.
There are times when it’s best to look a gift horse in the mouth, this seems to be one of those times, tread carefully people.
oh the irony of it *LeSigh*
Trust nobody Lady S!
I trust you … well sometimes :p You still got a major arse kicking comming your way 😉
The thread in the official forum was nuked. Just when people were getting around to discussing the ip rights of the contents of sex Gen. No only were the bulk of the animations released in the sex base created by others but he scripts and notecards essential for the items operation were created by Briggi Bard. Barring her explicit liscence to release such items full permission, Stoker most certainly had no right to do so.
Currently he is tweeting nonsense (possibly intoxicated) at all comers. Such things as
@JumpmanLane @DJQuad @FurNation I almost forgot I got a nice pool from SexGen too! Next up PawPadz!
@JumpmanLane @DJQuad @Neonskyq1 Tell Briggi that Belastingdienst is curious about his old BoA account. Damn those pesky tax men!
@JumpmanLane @DJQuad Who you two gonna yiff when the furf**s are all gone? I’m going to bed a real woman. Briggi just wishes she were one.
Ask him about it
http://twitter/#!/StrokerSerp/
I was about to comment on the thread when it got pulled.
His Tweets are bizarre, I’m following him.
Does anyone have any contact with Briggi still? I’d like to hear Briggi’s story, Corsi unfortunately comes with a lot of baggage.
Stroker is no geek, my understanding is he didn’t script a damn thing. As for releasing the intellectual property that isn’t his FP there is NO excuse for this none at all. It is interesting to see the mob at SLU turning on him, slowly but surely. It is also interesting to see those making silly excuses for him, if this were anyone else they would be cruising them. I don’t respect anyone simply because they are big name creator I respect people because they personally earn my respect, not because they can make something I can’t or because they make a ton of money. I never had any respect for Stroker personally because of the things he said in interviews. He always seemed to me to have a huge ego that well disguised but it was certainly there and that is not impressive to me. The final straw was of course the admission on Taboo about having sex with his virtual daughters, this was just sickening and repulsive. Now it looks like he was no better than a common thief himself, it is questionable how he came about the product to begin with, so he was not moral at all. Now he is distributing IP without licence to do so. My concerns about his character were correct, I always thought him creepy, now I see he is dishonest also. STROKER SERPENTINE, KEVIN ALDERMAN YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW DO NOT FORGET THAT!!
@fancypants all i can say to all that is amen. its his hypocrisy that always got me and i wondererd why many in sl fell for his goody goody image.
@everyone else who might care
people say im obsessed, a griefer, the caws of his troubles w/e. they claim im lying, making stuff up but with stroker serpentine, the truth is way more telling
Truth is often stranger than fiction although I do think there are some personal issues going on here that may explain some of the strange behaviour, the whole truth may come out in time.
I’ve been searching for days for that chat log with you and Blondin but can’t find traces of it anywhere.
corsi was my link to briggi. gotta go through corsi but hopefully briggi can be coaxed back into second life now that stroker has given up trying to make a buck off sex gen.
stroker’s twitter’s now gone too. but be captured them all before he left here for all their bizareness lol
http://www.pixelxmagazine.com/index.php/jb/104-stroker-serpentines-pedo-junkie-douche-tweets
if you go in world and join the first group in stroker’s profile slcc 2011 or bust and you’ll see stroker is still lurking around sl
Well I’d like Briggi not being influenced by Corsi to speak, the Briggi/ Stroker partnership pre-dates Corsi, let’s not forget that The Amsterdam Sim was built as a tribute to Briggi.
or built BY briggi bard mostly lol matter of perspective i suppose. briggi’s scripts are what make a sex gen sex base anything other than an rezzed box. if stroker has a legal liscence to the work perhaps he should produce it.
otherwise how could any one use it guiltlessly.
let your consience be your guide
Dude where’s the frigging Blondin quote, I have a vague memory of this but I’ve been searching high and low and can’t find it! We need this to be found!
You should go and tell Prok about conscience in using it. I’m not using it, especially since I saw Craig Altman’s comment, Craig is definitely a good guy.
i can not find it. i looked everywhere. i made a notecard of part of the convo but never got that part if it helps jog anybodies memory. What he said came after this but i didnt get the whole OH 🙁
15:40] Jumpman Lane: say um blondo ol pal
[15:40] Jumpman Lane: are u kinda handling support tickects
[15:40] Blondin Linden: though things got a bit crazy and I havent actually read it all the way through : (
[15:40] Jumpman Lane: HARRY SWORE he’d have the g team look at an object
[15:40] Jumpman Lane: dont know if theyhave or not
[15:40] Jumpman Lane: coldu mention it to him at the watercooler
[15:40] Blondin Linden: Not really jump, but I can log into and out of the support ticket thingy
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: u can
[15:41] Blondin Linden: i would if a) Harry was in the Boston office and b) there was a water cooler
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: well could ya see what the gteam decided AABOUT A CERTAIN OBJECT IF I GET U THE TICKECT HUMBER
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: ya’ll dont got water
[15:41] Blondin Linden: what was the context around the object?
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: i think ur lying
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: oh a water cooler
[15:41] Jumpman Lane: well it defames ME
[15:41] Sasy Scarborough snickers
[15:42] Jumpman Lane: and it was an age play sex device removed from xstreet but not removed in world
[15:42] Jumpman Lane: harry as like illhave the g team review it and if it violates the tos illremove it
[15:42] suzy Honi is Online
[15:43] Blondin Linden: if you find one inworld, AR it. Ageplay stuff is taken pretty seriously
[15:43] Jumpman Lane: oh i know
[15:43] Blondin Linden: 🙂
2010-04-14 21:48:45 note card
was the date i made the notecard so it would have been then i guess
Wow thanks for that link I missed all the tweets. Looks like stroker has shown his true colours. There are a lot of threats in there, albeit they are cloaked with double meanings, it’s still obvious. It is disturbing that he is gloating about his ill gotten gains (bikes, pools etc) that is another slap in the face to those who trusted him, such as Brig and Corsi. Of some amusement is the tweet “Going to bed a real woman” considering how much he prefers fake sex and um not always women if you know what I mean. I wonder how is real life wife feels about his preference for young pixels.
Jumpy do you think he will attempt any legal action against you, I genuinely hope not and well he’s broke so may not? I don’t know the law but how much can one post defamation and get away with it? Posting opinions on a forum or on twitter is hardly breaking any laws, but the man is sue crazy, just wondering if you had any concerns about that?
Sorry for the delay in your comment appearing, it was in my spam filter for some reason, can’t see any obvious reason.
i am not worried. i wish he would sue me caws then the whole world would get a peek at his Taboo appearence and draw thier own conclusion about ol kev lmao. I’m gonna write a book on him called “Douchery thy Name is Serpentine: The Rise and Fall of Kevin Alderman AKA Stroker Serpentine in Second Life” He can sue me then lol!
i aint lying, i got the first part written and previewd it a while ago
http://www.pixelxmagazine.com/index.php/jb/99-the-war-with-stroker-serpentine-draws-to-a-close
I’m loving the book jumpy, awaiting the next installment 🙂
thanks its coming lol! stroker was kind enough to give me a wow of an ending that overshadows his lawsuit lol
So whom is ladratuout? Is it stroker?
I wish people would shut the f*ck up and just leave it alone. Mind your own f*cking business a*holes….
huh it is OUR business, stroker is or rather was public figure. if you put yourself out there you have to accept that he’s the one that made it everyones business