{"id":3376,"date":"2013-11-12T19:42:14","date_gmt":"2013-11-12T19:42:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=3376"},"modified":"2013-11-12T19:42:14","modified_gmt":"2013-11-12T19:42:14","slug":"more-on-primbay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=3376","title":{"rendered":"More On PrimBay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to <a title=\"Lelani Carver\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lelanicarver.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Lelani Carver<\/a>, I have more information on CasperTech&#8217;s <a title=\"PrimBay\" href=\"https:\/\/www.primbay.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">PrimBay<\/a>. Lelani has updated her blog post to include <a title=\"PrimBay\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.casperdns.com\/index.php?title=PrimBay\" target=\"_blank\">a link to the PrimBay Wiki<\/a>, which has a lot more information than I was originally able to relay.<\/p>\n<p>I said in my previous post that the site looked a bit sparse, the Wiki informs me that this is by intent:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>The front page of PrimBay is simple. Just a search box. Find what you need, quickly and easily.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m afraid I have to give that a thumbs down, largely because it doesn&#8217;t draw curious users in. However other features are certainly worth a thumbs up and they include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A demo button will be available on listings, no need for a separate listing!<\/li>\n<li>Ability to share listings in social media.<\/li>\n<li>Full purchase support, by L$, Credit Card, or PayPal, including an (optional) device which can make payments automatically, similar to the marketplace.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>However where PrimBay really gets interesting is with regards to the future (the current roll out is still officially in the beta phase). Some of the proposed future features:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A special edition of caspervend designed for primbay-only merchants.<\/li>\n<li>Auctions &#8211; PrimBay has been designed with auctions in mind, and we will implement these in the coming time.<\/li>\n<li>Multiple store fronts &#8211; Multiple brands, one avatar.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There&#8217;s more to read on the wiki but PrimBay seems to be throwing down the gauntlet to the <a title=\"Second Life Marketplace\" href=\"https:\/\/marketplace.secondlife.com\/?lang=en-US\" target=\"_blank\">SL Marketplace<\/a> team by introducing features that SL Marketplace merchants have long wanted to see. Multiple store fronts and a demo on the listing being two large feature requests that the SL Marketplace has not yet implemented but which would prove extremely popular for merchants and shoppers alike.<\/p>\n<p>Another feature that SL Marketplace merchants may welcome is via the listing process. As I said in my previous post, you need to be a merchant using CasperVend to list your items on PrimBay, but in order for your items to appear on PrimBay all you need to do is have your account set to enabled and the items will, after a period of up to one hour, appear on the PrimBay website. No need to create a new listing on the site and inworld, one listing will make your item appear inworld and on the site.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>However some CasperVend customers may not want to list their items via PrimBay, or they may want certain items to appear and others not to appear. This can be controlled from your CasperVend account.<\/p>\n<p>Now where PrimBay won&#8217;t have the same ease of use as the SL Marketplace is with regards to customers, whom I think we&#8217;ll all agree, are a pretty damn important part of the equation. Customers will need to register via an inworld terminal and pay a deposit into said terminal in order to purchase items via PrimBay. Those of who have been around for a while will remember this was the norm when sites like XStreet, SL Boutique, OnRez and Apez were around.<\/p>\n<p>The SL Marketplace pretty much crushed all opposition by first buying some of them and then merging inworld and marketplace balances. This was a big coup and does make it easier for shoppers to shop. However that doesn&#8217;t mean PrimBay won&#8217;t be a success because those other sites were a success to a degree back in the day and customers may well be tempted to PrimBay if they can find content more easily than they can on the SL Marketplace and features such as demos not cluttering up search, speed and a decent search engine will go a long way to helping PrimBay.<\/p>\n<p>Then there are those terminals, always a popular option for merchants and they will be available.<\/p>\n<p>The current website is not the finished article and I&#8217;m sure with some feedback CasperTech will make improvements, they already have plans afoot to redesigi the site.<\/p>\n<p>Concerns have also been raised regarding the current state of affairs whereby CasperVend merchants have to opt out, rather than opt in to PrimBay. Casper Warden explains the thinking behind that in <a title=\"Casper Speaks\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sluniverse.com\/php\/vb\/general-sl-discussion\/89345-primbay-might-alternative.html#post1859805\" target=\"_blank\">a post on SLUniverse<\/a> where he says:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>The thing is, it was necessary. People, by nature, don&#8217;t read forms and don&#8217;t click options, regardless of what the option means. An opt-in system would have resulted in hardly any products being available on PrimBay at this point, and that would have meant an early death for it. People won&#8217;t bother visiting a marketplace if there&#8217;s no content.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I do recognise that this wasn&#8217;t the most friendly strategy, but I firmly believe it was the only viable one. However, going forward, I am going to change this to &#8220;opt-in&#8221; for any newly created products.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Now you may or may not agree with those sentiments, I&#8217;m not a fan of opt out but, Casper receives backing in that thread from CasperVend merchants who explain that they received plenty of communication informing them that the initial system would be opt out, so it&#8217;s not as if Casper has sprung this on unsuspecting merchants. <a title=\"Casper Speaks Some More\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sluniverse.com\/php\/vb\/general-sl-discussion\/89345-primbay-might-alternative.html#post1859820\" target=\"_blank\">In another post Casper explains<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>We sent several notecards and group notices informing them about the situation, to give them the opportunity to opt out before we went online.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It has been quite some time since a venture arrived that offered an alternative for merchants and customers to the SL Marketplace, I wish Casper and his team all the best and it may even invigorate the SL Marketplace team to up their game, because some of the features Casper is offering on PrimBay would certainly be welcomed by SL Marketplace merchants.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"twitter-share-button\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" data-url=\"http:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=3376\" data-via=\"Ciaran_Laval\">Tweet<\/a><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <![CDATA[\n!function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=\/^http:\/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+':\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs');\n\/\/ ]]><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to Lelani Carver, I have more information on CasperTech&#8217;s PrimBay. Lelani has updated her blog post to include a link to the PrimBay Wiki, which has a lot more information than I was originally able to relay. I said in my previous post that the site looked a bit sparse, the Wiki informs me &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=3376\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;More On PrimBay&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,14],"tags":[608,609,607,1022,89],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6rJUK-Ss","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3376"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3376"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3376\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3377,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3376\/revisions\/3377"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3376"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3376"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3376"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}