{"id":277,"date":"2008-01-18T21:49:00","date_gmt":"2008-01-18T21:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=277"},"modified":"2014-01-12T13:13:23","modified_gmt":"2014-01-12T13:13:23","slug":"the-taxmans-taken-all-my-dough","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=277","title":{"rendered":"The Taxman&#8217;s Taken All My Dough"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are those who fear the arrival of the taxman into virtual  worlds. There is of course already a presence, income tax, capital gains  tax, VAT, take your pick. However some of us feel they might want an  even bigger slice of the cake and start looking at inworld currencies.<\/p>\n<p>However I&#8217;m here to temporarily alleviate your fears, because at the  moment the taxman doesn&#8217;t appear to know his arse from his elbow when it  comes to virtual worlds.<\/p>\n<p>In early October I started a dialogue (a slow, long, painful,  dialogue) with HMRC (The UK taxman). My point being, why the heck am I  paying VAT for tier on virtual world land? The problems seem to arise  via laws, laws that were implemented without consideration of virtual  worlds such as Second Life and inworld currencies.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve exchanged emails, they&#8217;ve sent me letters and this week, they send me what they hope is a<br \/>\nsatisfactory answer:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;I have conferred with our Unit of expertise and can advise you  that our current position is that &#8216;transactions&#8217; that take place  entirely within a virtual world do not appear to constitute supplies for  VAT purposes.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>You see what they did there? A politician would be proud of an answer  like that. The key phrase is &#8220;do not appear to constitute.&#8221; This is a  get out of jail free card in case they decide at some stage to change  their mind, because they haven&#8217;t actually said that inworld  &#8216;transactions&#8217; definitely do not constitute supplies for VAT purposes.<\/p>\n<p>Politicians of course give a different answer on this issue, the  politicians I&#8217;ve contacted have reacted with a deafening silence, not  one reply. They obviously don&#8217;t know what to make of it all and feel  it&#8217;s better to pretend it never happened.<\/p>\n<p>However whilst all this is going on I&#8217;m paying more than  non-Europeans for my land tier and it&#8217;s quite a hefty sum and whereas  that&#8217;s my fault for being born in Europe, it&#8217;s still a pain in the  backside when VAT charges are completely unjustified on land tier.<\/p>\n<p>However there are a couple of implications from the non answer  provided. One is that those who have sent LL their VAT number to avoid  VAT charges are skating on thin ice. If all your supplies are VAT  exempt, you can&#8217;t avoid paying VAT for the service. As far as I&#8217;m aware  LL ask for the number and then simply don&#8217;t charge those people VAT.  This is fair enough as it&#8217;s not LL&#8217;s problem, but some people may be in  for a rude awakening when they file their tax returns.<\/p>\n<p>Another implication is, if I could pay my tier inworld, it would  appear to mean that I would not have to pay VAT on my tier. Now this has  other implications, maybe the L$ market would be flooded which could  reduce the value of the L$.<\/p>\n<p>How would LL be able to manage inworld payments anyway? I mean this  would be difficult, surely they would have to reclaim 16m parcels of  land, install a tier payment box and then inform everyone of the new  regime. No big land owner would install such a system, would they? \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>There are options, there are alternatives and there are ways to make  life easier for us whiney Europeans but even I have to admit that the  alternatives are definitely troublesome and may be ruled illegal at  anytime.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;m just looking for someone to save me, save me, save me, from this squeeze!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are those who fear the arrival of the taxman into virtual worlds. There is of course already a presence, income tax, capital gains tax, VAT, take your pick. However some of us feel they might want an even bigger slice of the cake and start looking at inworld currencies. However I&#8217;m here to temporarily &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=277\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Taxman&#8217;s Taken All My Dough&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,14,647],"tags":[1022,75],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6rJUK-4t","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=277"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":280,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277\/revisions\/280"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=277"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=277"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=277"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}