{"id":231,"date":"2009-09-12T19:32:52","date_gmt":"2009-09-12T18:32:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=231"},"modified":"2014-01-12T13:17:18","modified_gmt":"2014-01-12T13:17:18","slug":"listening-to-communities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=231","title":{"rendered":"Listening To Communities"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With a hat tip to Desmond Shang for his forum <a title=\"Forum Post\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.secondlife.com\/showthread.php?t=339409\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a>, and another to Kamilah Hauptmann who brought this to Desmond&#8217;s attention in the first place, there&#8217;s a very interesting blog <a title=\"The Cardinal Sin of Community Management\" href=\"http:\/\/www.startuplessonslearned.com\/2009\/09\/cardinal-sin-of-community-management.html\" target=\"_blank\">post<\/a> from Eric Ries, who has been involved with IMVU regarding listening to your community. I&#8217;ve touched upon this <a title=\"Listening\" href=\"http:\/\/your2ndplace.com\/node\/1580\" target=\"_blank\">before<\/a> with the example of how Champions Online rectified a situation over  limited discounted subscriptions, but Eric&#8217;s post is probably a better  example because it took IMVU a bit longer to figure out the harsh  realities of not listening.<\/p>\n<p>The crux of the issue is that IMVU  didn&#8217;t listen to their community, made changes that as far as they could  see would only have an impact for 0.1% of their community and that  everything would be fine. However things weren&#8217;t fine, people whom IMVU  hadn&#8217;t even considered would be interested in some of these policy  changes were concerned to such a degree that IMVU was losing both  revenue and customers on a scale they hadn&#8217;t imagined was remotely  likely.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure what sort of &#8220;illicit&#8221; content Eric is  talking about, I&#8217;ve never used IMVU, I think he&#8217;s talking about adult  content as he says adults were happy to talk with other adults and be  verified as adults, even when they weren&#8217;t interested in adult content.  Tthere are lessons to be learnt from this article for Linden Lab and  they really should pay heed. IMVU you see were chasing the mainstream  and by making the policy change they did, they sent a message to their  customers, an unintended message, but a message all the same. IMVU  customers felt that the platform was becoming a teen-only platform.<\/p>\n<p>How  did IMVU end up in this situation? After all they&#8217;d been carefully  explaining the changes, although they seem to have viewed some of the  complaints as &#8220;Trolling&#8221;  and felt that only a very small minority of customers would be  disenfranchised. How could it have gone so wrong? Eric explains:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;we  violated the cardinal rule. We didn\u2019t listen. More accurately, we made  our customers feel like we weren\u2019t listening. And until we could make  that right, we kept on hemorrhaging business.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Linden Lab  have most certainly done the above, indeed reading that article I can  see several areas where Linden Lab have done exactly what that article  says companies shouldn&#8217;t do. The adult content changes have been the  biggest example of this. Linden Lab have refused to listen to their  customers over this one. They still aren&#8217;t listening to their customers  over this. Where has Cyn been in all of this? She is after all the head  of the department and yet she has been conspicuous by her absence and  gives the impression of being aloof. Whether she is aloof we don&#8217;t know  because she hardly ever speaks, it&#8217;s left to Blondin to speak and  Blondin is following orders from above.<\/p>\n<p>They didn&#8217;t listen to  their customers over the Openspace fiasco. They weren&#8217;t listening to  those during the Openspace boom who were saying these islands were not  being used as light use, they didn&#8217;t listen to their customers over the  price rises who said it was unfair to do this when Linden Lab had  actively encouraged their sales, they simply didn&#8217;t listen.<\/p>\n<p>The  new Xstreet forum is another area where Linden Lab have been accused of  not listening, and there&#8217;s some merit to those charges again. There was  also a comment from a Linden that they hoped cooler heads would prevail  over last weekend and see the sense of the moves, the cooler heads did  not prevail and the impression given was that those who were complaining  were considered &#8220;Trolls&#8221; and unimportant, but as Eric&#8217;s post points out, those who don&#8217;t post complaints often agree with the wrongly labelled trolls.<\/p>\n<p>Linden  Lab have another chance to listen to their customers now, by not  merging the main forum with the blog format until such times as the blog  format is more user friendly and all round more useful. My hope is that  they will do this, keep the main forums as they are for some time yet,  allow people to migrate naturally and natural migration is achieved by  making the new discussion areas more useful than the old ones.<\/p>\n<p>Linden  Lab can&#8217;t please all of the people all of the time, nobody expects them  to do that either, but when they steadfastly refuse to listen, they  alienate communities. IMVU discovered that actually listening to their  customers was beneficial, even when they weren&#8217;t sure why their  customers were complaining:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It  took me a long time to understand that benefit of our product. Most  customers couldn\u2019t articulate it; they just knew they were angry that we  had ruined it. Except that, from a literal point of view, we hadn\u2019t  ruined it. All of the features that enabled that experience were still  there. What we had done to ruin it was make our customers feel like they  were not welcome anymore. We kept denying that we had done anything  wrong, that the features still worked as advertised, and justifying our  decisions instead of apologizing. When we finally understood the  problem, fixing it was relatively easy. We made a series of very public  declarations that IMVU would always support adults, that we appreciated  their unique contribution, and that we would always protect the key  features that meant the most to them. The fact that pornography was not  one of these key features was besides the point. We had summarily turned  off one of their features without consulting them and without remorse.  Who knew what feature might be next?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This sums up the  feelings of the customers whom I see at Zindra and Blondin Linden office  hours over adult content, they feel they aren&#8217;t being listened to, they  feel that LL show no remorse over the bad policy decisions they&#8217;ve made  (and this was also true of the Openspace fiasco) and they feel that  they aren&#8217;t welcomed by Linden Lab anymore but what about those not  speaking out? Are there customers who have no interest in adult content  who feel Linden Lab are making the place too kid friendly? I have  certainly seen people complaining that one of the reasons they came to  Second Life was because it was 18+, they don&#8217;t want to engage in pixel  bumping, but they do want to converse with adults.<\/p>\n<p>Actions are  proof that companies are listening, not words, words are largely empty  without accompanying actions, will Linden Lab listen to their community  or will they continue to take a &#8220;Mommy knows best&#8221; approach?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With a hat tip to Desmond Shang for his forum post, and another to Kamilah Hauptmann who brought this to Desmond&#8217;s attention in the first place, there&#8217;s a very interesting blog post from Eric Ries, who has been involved with IMVU regarding listening to your community. I&#8217;ve touched upon this before with the example of &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=231\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Listening To Communities&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[16,3,14,647],"tags":[64,19,1022],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6rJUK-3J","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/231"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=231"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/231\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3524,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/231\/revisions\/3524"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=231"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=231"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=231"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}