{"id":1787,"date":"2012-02-02T20:53:45","date_gmt":"2012-02-02T20:53:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=1787"},"modified":"2012-02-02T22:33:46","modified_gmt":"2012-02-02T22:33:46","slug":"ll-should-consider-group-and-event-pages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sl.governormarley.com\/?p=1787","title":{"rendered":"LL Should Consider Group And Event Pages"},"content":{"rendered":"

There has been a bit of a hoo-ha going on about Linden Lab throttling llGiveInventory to 5K per hour per owner, per sim. as explained in Jira-SVC-7631<\/a>. This sounds like a reasonable limit at first glance, it sounds like an even more reasonable limit on second glance when you consider that a single script couldn’t do this before the throttle anyway. However the ever inventive users of Second Life have got around this limit to allow subscribers to send out announcements quickly. This has unfortunately exposed a security flaw that had to be urgently addressed.<\/p>\n

A few things stand out here, one being why the hell do we need to send thousands of notecards and textures to people in the first place. Another, the issue of communications, in this case I’m with Linden Lab, they needed to address a security issue but there remain communication issues. This change will break content.<\/p>\n

Reading the Jira, most of the concerns\u00a0are from people who run mailing lists, there is one major exception in the shape and form of 7Seas Fishing creator Seven Shikami whose game uses llGiveInventory. However it’s mostly about mailing lists, with people concerned that if they use a large mailing list that hits the throttle, all items in a sim owned by them that use llGiveInventory will not work for a while, that includes any scripted vendors that use the function. I don’t know what would happen if the vendors used llGiveInventorylist instead, I’d imagine they’d still be throttled.<\/p>\n

However this really highlights a flaw in the group announcement system, delivering inventory to so many users for an announcement, when really we should be just pointing people in the direction of the notice. Google + and Facebook both allow people to create pages for their business or communities, it’s time really to move group notices to the Second Life profiles website and implement this into the viewer. This would mean that instead of people having to have yet another landmark, notecard and texture in their inventory, they’d just follow the link to see the texture, be able to teleport from the link and see detailed information about any new product launch or event.<\/p>\n

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I’m not suggesting this is easy to implement, but it is surely time we stopped loading up our inventories with notecards, textures\u00a0and landmarks for one off announcements. Group pages could allow for more richness when announcing events and releases, people could provide feedback on the page, testimonials, for others to see, the advantages of going this route are many, of course there would be bandwidth costs here and of course instant messages are throttled and are capped, but really if you’re planning an event and a product release you should be planning ahead, group chat can be used for last minute announcements.<\/p>\n

The current system wasn’t designed for the sort of load on the servers that mailing lists currently create, huge groups with thousands of members weren’t envisaged back then. Yes Second Life has evolved and will hopefully continue to evolve, new challenges like this are a positive but really it’s time to look at the whole thing again.<\/p>\n

There are always going to be communication issues, I’d like to see more Linden Lab staff following the lead of the adult content forum and posting links to user group meetings in the forum. Oz does a fine job in the server forum of posting links to rollouts. Kelly is active on the scripting mailing list but I’d like to see more from the scripting team in the scripting forum, even if it’s just posting minutes to their user group meetings. When it comes to group notices, which are what subscribers are designed to address, there are still going to be people who ignore notices, you can’t make people read the information, but I do feel that pages will offer a way of reducing some of the issues, enhancing the richness of event and product release notices and save space in people’s inventories.<\/p>\n

I really like the way we can post snapshots to our profile feeds and add locations inworld, I’d like it even more if I could post a texture on a group page and add a location there for people to read about events, I’d also like to be able to post events on this blog in the same way as I can post destination guide links, I really like the way you can just create an ad widget, yes I am getting greedy now and yes Linden Lab do have more important matters to deal with but I feel there are long term benefits to be had here for everyone.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

There has been a bit of a hoo-ha going on about Linden Lab throttling llGiveInventory to 5K per hour per owner, per sim. as explained in Jira-SVC-7631. This sounds like a reasonable limit at first glance, it sounds like an even more reasonable limit on second glance when you consider that a single script couldn’t … <\/p>\n

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