Tax Cliffhanger – The Conclusion

Recap : Yesterday I blogged about the confusion users were facing with trying to fill in forms to comply with Linden Lab’s new tax and account requirements. At the end of that post I had to leave matters on a cliffhanger, Kat Fetisov was hanging on the telephone with the IRS whilst trying to find out whether she could obtain an Employer ID Number (EIN), which rumour has it can be obtained during a phone call, rather than having to get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which can take several weeks to obtain and would therefore mean missing the Linden Lab deadline of 30 days …..

The result, Kat got an EIN! However, there have been more twists to this plot and they may or may not be good, on the face of it they are good. A user called Jerry commented on my original post and said:

I tried to transfer some money and it did never arrive within 3 weeks. So I filed a support ticket. That is how I found out that there was an open ticket where they requested the tax form. I filled it out and I got my money, but as you said, I left the ITIN blank. Still, one month later I sent another payment and it worked.

So Jerry didn’t need to fill in an EIN or an ITIN, and here is where a little guidance may have been useful. Kat has also discovered she didn’t need an EIN or ITIN , for the purposes of filling this form in for Linden Lab. However Kat was advised by Linden Lab that she should put her UK National Insurance number on the form. There is a section on the W8-BEN that has space for a foreign tax ID number.

Kat also has an excellent blog post with some helpful information for those who may be struggling with this : The plot thickens. Or possibly thins a little. However Kat is, rightly in my view, a little suspicious of the way Linden Lab are dealing with matters, it’s not that she thinks Linden Lab have got matters wrong, it’s just that the process is unusual when compared to other American based companies who ask you to fill in forms such as this.

I can see exactly where Kat is coming from on this matter because, as I’ve mentioned before, I’ve had to fill this form in for Amazon KDP and this is how my status there looks:

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Tax Information Completed

As you can see, I have an applicable withholding rate of 30% and that is because I haven’t provided Amazon with an EIN or an ITIN, I’ve left that field blank. This means if I publish anything on Amazon and it sells to Amazon US customers, they will hold back 30% of my royalties. However it looks like, this isn’t the case with Second Life, which should be cheered.

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LL’s New Account Requirements Prove Taxing For Users

Whether it’s Required Account Documentation, or whether it’s Required Tax Documentation, SL users are getting into a tizzy with LL, the IRS and confusion about whether they need an ITIN or an EIN as people find themselves lost in acronym city.

There are posts on the official Second Life Forums:

ID and TAX ID Information Required by Linden Labs – Pending Processes Credits On Hold

Patriot Act Letter from LL?

LL needs more “Required Account Documentation” ?…..

The people starting these threads are not noobs, some of them have experience outside of Second Life of dealing with business issues, yet they are lost in a sea of fog as to exactly what’s required and why it’s required. Then over at SLUniverse there is a long standing thread where Kat Fetisov is currently hanging on the telephone with the IRS! Will the call be finished before this blog post is published? Hold tight readers, we may need to end with a cliffhanger …..

However there are some things that people need to know regarding these issues, one of them being that if you’ve been under the radar with your income from Second Life, you may be in for a bit of pain …. and really, it’s your own fault and you know it really, so concentrate and find out the proper options. Unfortunately, as I said earlier, the current options are shrouded in mist.

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Questions About New Tax Requirements For Second Life Garners New Information

When Linden Lab recently blogged about new tax requirements people still had several questions regarding many matters relating to those questions. Chief amongst those questions was what exactly a transaction is.

Over at SLUniverse Desmond Shang has posted some details from a response he received from Linden Lab:

Thank you for contacting us with your concerns. As mentioned in the blog post Required Tax Documentation – Second Life, the reporting criteria for 1099-K is 200+ transactions AND $20,000+ in a calendar year.

Transactions are currently defined as sell orders placed on the LindeX and applies per person not per avatar. How that order is filled does not currently impact the transaction count. For example, if you place a sell order for L$5,000 and that order is matched with three different residents while being filled, it counts as one transaction.

Separately, IRS criteria on withholding taxes is only on the transaction count itself; withholding is only required if we do not have a valid W-9 or W-8BEN on file.

So that clears up what a transaction is

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